The Best Stiff Buttercream Recipe for Piping Flowers (video recipe)
If you plan to pipe buttercream flowers, the first thing you need is a stiff buttercream frosting recipe for piping flowers. One that will pipe perfect buttercream flowers for you and will taste as delicious as it looks. This is an all-butter buttercream recipe that will give you the best stiff buttercream frosting for cake decorating you will ever need.
What did you make for Mother's Day this year? Last year I made Pink Champagne Cupcakes with Pink Champagne Buttercream for some of my lady customers.
Tip - a great way to simplify orders at peak time is to make an exotic flavor - call it 'flavor of the month', or 'mother's day special' and give a little discount. When more people order the same your workload gets a bit easier to handle and it's less stressful.
Don't those buttercream flowers look gorgeous? Firm and stiff?
This Spring Buttercream Basket of Flowers was this year's mother's day special. I have been waiting to share with you how I made this cake but first, you're going to need the right buttercream for the right job. So, here is my Stiff Buttercream Frosting for Piping flowers and I mean it when I say - this is the best buttercream icing for piping. And did I tell you yet, that it's an all-butter buttercream frosting? Yes!
Why do you need a special buttercream for piping flowers?
Piping buttercream flowers are not difficult if you have the right buttercream frosting for piping. One that is just the right consistency; and not over whipped. Now, I highlight these dilemmas not to discourage you but to share that these can be potential problems, which the below recipe and tips to help piping.
- An over whipped buttercream cake causes air pockets in the buttercream piping bag that will burst when piping flowers - so unlike another buttercream frosting this one is mixed just until it's combined.
- If the consistency is too stiff- it won't be easy to pipe. Your wrist will start hurting after a few flowers - so if your wrist hurts when piping? that's your clue that your frosting is too stiff.
- The petals of the flowers will have cracked edges which on some flowers look nice, but in general, the stiff frosting won't look good for all flowers. Here's another clue that the icing is too stiff.
- If the consistency is too soft, the petals will be limp and not hold their shape. The petals will look swoopy. So when you are piping if you find the petal is not holding its form. Don't continue pipping as it will be a struggle. Sometimes a little powder sugar will do the trick. Unfortunately, sometimes you need a fresh batch of buttercream or new cake design.
- If the frosting is soft, the flowers will be limp and slide off the cake. Another reason the flowers fall of the cake is when you are piping the flowers with the right buttercream, but you covered the cake with a very soft frosting which is why these flowers are sliding. Chilling the cake can often help with this problem.
- The weather - if you live in a place with high humidity often it's not the buttercream but whether that's causing the butter to melt. Sometimes, using a veg shortening buttercream can help solve this problem.
This stiff buttercream frosting for cake decorating works excellent for cakes such as this. This helps me make my flowers without stressing too much about air pockets or whooped petals. Also, read - Tips for coloring icing - icing color combination chart
Ingredients and substitutes (Save/Pin)
- Butter- Yes, this is an all-butter buttercream recipe! Drum roll, please!
Well you know I love all butter in my buttercream, so this one is no different. Having said that if you live in a hot and humid climate go ahead and substitute half the butter with vegetable shortening/ white fat or ghee.
Take note - I currently live in Israel and summer here in the middle east is hot and humid too! But this works for me. So honestly I think it works with your warm and humid climate also. But don't take my word for it - do a test, make a small batch and pipe some cupcakes. - Powdered sugar - I have said this before, and I will repeat it. Look for powdered sugar made from pure cane sugar, not beet sugar. And you will never have a grainy or gritty buttercream.
- Pudding Mix or Cornstarch / Cornflour - This is not just for taste, but it helps add stability to the buttercream. What is the pudding mix? It's just flavored cornstarch which adds so much more to the buttercream.
- Clear vanilla and almond - It's best to use clear extract so your buttercream will be neutral and the gel colors you add will be at their best shades.
Useful Tips and Tools
- If you make buttercream often, it would be a good idea to invest in a good stand mixer such as Kenwood or Kitchen-Aid. I use a hand mixer for my videos, which also works great. Read - which stand mixer is best for home-bakers.
- For most buttercream mixing, it is recommended to use the paddle attachment, so you do not incorporate too much air into the buttercream. But in the case of meringue buttercream, you want to use the whisk attachment so you can include as much air as possible in the egg whites.
- Measuring ingredients correctly is crucial to baking or cake decorating. Personally, I believe in measuring ingredients by weight, which makes my kitchen scale one of the most valuable items when baking. The same goes for my measuring cups and measuring spoons. It's always a good idea to have these handy and use them when baking rather than trying to guess measurements. Read - how to measure ingredients correctly for baking.
- And, after the buttercream is prepared, always keep it sealed well. If you keep it in the fridge, wrap the top surface of the buttercream well with parchment paper. This will prevent any odor from the other foods to attach itself to the buttercream. I place my buttercream in stainless steel storage.
How to make the best stiff buttercream frosting recipe for cake decorating (Save/Pin)
- Have all ingredients at room temperature.
- Place butter in a mixer bowl with a paddle attachment and mix until creamy - 30 seconds.
- Add cream, salt, cornstarch/cornflour/pudding mix - mix slowly to incorporate.
- Make sure you have no lumps - if necessary add a bit of the powdered sugar to help it combine.
- Scarp the sides and bottom of the bowl for any butter stuck.
- Once you have a smooth, creamy mix - add the powdered sugar in two batches.
- When all the sugar is in - scrape the sides and bottom of the bowl again.
- Add vanilla and almond extract.
- Give it one last mix for 2 minutes - check to make sure it's not too stiff and not too gritty.
- If necessary add 1 or 2 tbsp fresh cream or milk to adjust consistency.
- Unlike my Velvet American Buttercream Recipe, this one gets mixed for barely 5 minutes in total.
Storage and use
- This buttercream cream will stay at room temperature for about three days - having said that this is still an all-butter buttercream recipe so if the weather is hot the frosting will melt.
- When not using - store covered with cling wrap to prevent crusting.
- Add gel food color without over mixing to avoid incorporating to much air
- You can store this buttercream in the fridge for a month or in the freezer for up to 6 months.
- It is best to thaw in the fridge from frozen, then re-mixed to bring to consistency.
The Best Stiff Buttercream frosting for cake decorating Pipping Buttercream Flowers
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Ingredients
- 1 lb (450 g) Unsalted butter (4 sticks) (room temperature)
- 2 lbs (900 g) Powdered sugar / Confectioners sugar
- 2 tbsp Pudding mix (see substitute above)
- 2 tbsp Whipping cream (plus extra for consistency)
- 1 tsp Clear vanilla extract
- 1/4 tsp Clear almond extract
- 1 tsp Salt
Instructions
- Have all ingredients at room temperature.
- Place butter in a mixer bowl with a paddle attachment and mix until creamy - 30 seconds.
- Add cream, salt, cornflour - mix slowly to incorporate.
- Make sure you have no lumps - if necessary add a bit of the powdered sugar to help it combine.
- Scarp the sides and bottom of the bowl for any butter stuck.
- Once you have a smooth creamy mix - add the powdered sugar in two batches.
- When all the sugar is in - scrape the sides and bottom of the bowl again.
- Add vanilla and almond extract.
- Give it one last mix for 2 minutes - check to make sure it's not too stiff and not too gritty.
- If necessary add 1 or 2 tbsp fresh cream or milk to adjust consistency.
- Unlike my Velvet American Buttercream Recipe, this one gets mixed for barely 5 minutes in total.
Recipe Notes
- Ensure the butter is room temperature when creaming (or you will have little lumps of butter in the buttercream)
- Sift the powdered sugar - twice if needed when making this buttercream - Any bits of sugar left in; can clog the piping bag and become very frustrating.
- When adding gel do not over mix as it incorporates too much air in the buttercream causing air pockets in the piping bag.
- Add color to small batches and a tiny bit at a time. A little can go a long way.
- Use gel, not water-based colors - water-based colors will affect consistency if you have to use water-based use less cream/milk at the beginning in the recipe.
- Check final consistency after adding color to the buttercream - as gel colors can alter consistency too.
- If the buttercream is too soft to pipe add powdered sugar if the buttercream is too stiff add fresh cream or milk - but do it a teaspoon at a time.
Storage and use
- This buttercream cream will stay at room temperature for about 3 days - having said that this is still an all-butter buttercream recipe so if the weather is hot the frosting will start to melt.
- When not using - store covered with cling wrap to prevent crusting.
- Add gel food color without over mixing to avoid incorporating to much air.
- You can store this buttercream in the fridge for a month or in the freezer for up to 6 months.
- It is best thawed in the fridge from frozen, then re-mixed to bring to consistency.
Nutrition Information
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Frequently asked questions
If you make extra buttercream flowers don't throw them away, leave them on the parchment squares and freeze them in a single layer. They will last for months. Wrap them well covered away from other foods.
It really depends on the type of frosting you use and the weather where you keep the cake. My stiff buttercream frosting can be kept out for a few days (2 to 3 days at room temperature) as long as it's not hot and humid because it's made with butter. Having said that if you live in a hot and humid climate like Israel, India or Texas summer, the buttercream flowers will stay well for a few hours at room temperature. They will be soft at room temperature but not melt unless you place them in a sunny place.
Buttercream flowers can elevate a simple cake to an impressive work of art in merely minutes. Making buttercream flowers is simple and easy if you have the right buttercream recipe and use the right piping technique which I am going to share with you today in this video and step by step tutorial.
You certainly can but it's stiff consistency and would not be so easy to spread. I use my Velvet American Buttercream for frosting all my cake. There is a reason why I call it velvet and I highly recommend you check it out. I also use it as a base for all my many buttercream flavors. If you want an eggless buttercream for cakes, use this classic vanilla buttercream frosting
Pudding mix is usually cornstarch also known as cornflour or sometimes arrowroot with flavoring (and sometimes sugar). So, if you don't have pudding mix, use cornstarch, cornflour or arrowroot powder. I've used a pudding mix for the added flavor.
Yes. This recipe will work perfectly with the popular Russian piping tips.
Yes, you sure can use this as a base for other flavors. I do have over 30 buttercream frosting recipes on this blog. Some from scratch and some made from a basic buttercream recipe. Also read, Buttercream Basic -Buttercream 101 a great guide for beginners
If you want to make chocolate buttercream flowers I highly recommend you substitute 1/2 cup powdered sugar with 1/2 cup cocoa powder. If you want to frost a cake I suggest you use my Chocolate buttercream frosting (with real chocolate or my Bakery style chocolate buttercream frosting (with cocoa powder)
You can but it really depends on the weather you enjoy. If cool weather any meringue buttercream will make buttercream flowers but in summer or hot and humid weather that might just not be possible. However, there is a Korean buttercream recipe that works well for making buttercream flowers despite the humidity.
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Ankita Paul
Hi Veena,
I am ankita.lam a beginner so wanted to understand the difference between liquid glucose and corn starch. Can liquid glucose be use in place of corn starch.
Thank you for your valuable time.
Regards
Ankita
Veena Azmanov
No, liquid glucose is an invert sugar whole cornstarch is a thickener. They are both completely different.
Regina Kunschman
Hi! I am late to the party but I am a beginner baker. I have a vision for the dry brushing and/or using the already liquid spray to apply luster dust to the items I pipe to decorate a cake or cupcakes. Does this frosting develop a bit of a crust so a very gentle dry brush of luster dust would work? Thanks for your time! Stay safe!!!
Veena Azmanov
Regina. This is an all-butter frosting so it does get a slight crust and yet that depends on the weather - if you have warm weather that crust will not be as effective as you want. I hope that makes sense
Charu
Hi Veena, will this recipe work for a buttercream cake transfer? I would like a not too sweet crusting cream.
Veena Azmanov
Yes, Charu, this will work for buttercream transfer but this is a sweet buttercream. You need more sugar to make the buttercream stiff.
Liz
Hi, is the whipping cream necessary for the recipe? What would be a good substitute?
Thanks!
Maria B Rugolo
I adjusted the recipe to make 6 cups. Thank you for providing the ability to easily to do so. I'm new to piping and coloring icing in small batches. This recipe is a thing of beauty. I did use Wilton meringue powder in place of cornstarch one-for-one. I added sifted unsweetened cocoa powder to what I had left of the vanilla buttercream to make chocolate buttercream and it tasted and piped beautifully. Once again, thank you Veena for a lovely recipe and very helpful tips and info.
Veena Azmanov
Thank you, Maria. I am so happy to hear you liked this recipe so much. Thanks for the feedback
Tiffany
Beautiful recipe for flower making. Ty for sharing.
Veena Azmanov
You are welcome, Tiffany
Chan
Hi,
Can I make this dairy free by using stick margarine instead of butter?
Veena Azmanov
I think vegetable shortening will be better than margarine as it has more moisture which might make the frosting soft.
Anie Abraham
Day 2 done. Thank you
Ramya
Hi Veena,
I am planning to try making some flowers on a cake for my friends anniversary. Was wondering which attachment I should be using on the hand mixer for this as I only have 2 - the beater and the dough attachment. I am assuming it is the beater as I dont have anything like a paddle.
Also do you have any eggless lemon/fruit cake recipe.. wanted to make something good for summer.
Veena Azmanov
Yes, you will need to use the beater, Ramya. I have an eggless vanilla cake that can be made into a lemon cake.
Jeannie Holmes
Do you have recipe books for buttercream frosting and cake mixes
Veena Azmanov
Hey Jeannie. Not yet, all my recipes are here on the blog. Thanks
Teegal
I'm so amazing at what I saw on your blog,was searching for a nice site where I can get buttercream cake for my cousin's wedding. Your buttercream cakes look amazing and beautiful
Veena Azmanov
Thank you, Teegal
Julie
Disappointed. Making a Barbie gown cake with skirt of flowers so I wanted to try a better /new frosting to ensure it worked out well with such heavy piping. Came out moderately gritty. Troubleshooted that which took several hours. Then after all that manipulation, was too stiff and piped poorly. I didn’t realize until too late. I was doing four colors so adding more cream to each just seemed like too much after already playing with it for hours for the grit (added cream, warmed it, and then re-mix). I’ve never had such gritty buttercream before. Once a realized it was too stiff, I was just over it and used it to finish up. I’ve had an easier time with just beet sugar, butter and milk....
Veena Azmanov
Hey Julie, I'm sorry to hear you did not succeed with this recipe. Not sure what happened but as you can see from the comments that many have had great successes with the recipe.
It really is a simple and easy recipe to make.
I highly recommend you read the recipe again and see what may have caused the issues. Thank you so much for coming back to leave this feedback.
Whitney Kerr
Hi! This came out great and tastes delicious!! However, I'm wondering how you add colors without over mixing your frosting? I was able to mix less than 5 minutes in making the frosting, but spent about a half an hour just mixing in color to my frosting trying to get a color I like. The frosting ended up too sticky to pipe once I got a color even close to something pretty.
I mix with a knife.
Veena Azmanov
Hey Whitney, Sounds like the frosting got warm by the time you were done coloring.
If you look in my video for buttercream flowers I don't mix it too much. I add color and use a spatula to fold the color in. That's because you don't want too much air incorporated in your buttercream.
Natasha
Hi Veena
Thank you for sharing this recipe. I live in the UK and have no idea what pudding mix is ha! Please could you share the brand you used or would plain cornstarch deliver the same impact? Also would this be suitable to ice a whole cake as the cake will be displayed in a warm room hence why I looked at your recipe in the hopes that the buttercream would not melt(?) If not, are there any other ‘humidity resistant’ non-shortening (I hate the greasy texture of shortening) buttercream recipes I could use?
Many thanks in advance!
Veena Azmanov
Hey Natasha. Yes, cornstarch would work perfectly with this recipe.
Pudding mix usually consists of cornstarch and flavoring (sometimes arrowroot powder)
This buttercream works best in my hot and humid climate of Israel so I think should work for you too.
Hope this helps. Let me know how it was
Natasha
Great however would this buttercream be suitable to ice a whole cake?
Veena Azmanov
Yes, Natasha. You can certainly use this recipe to ice the whole cake. If the buttercream is too thick add some liquid (milk, cream, water) to make it spreadable. But add a tablespoon at time. One table of liquid is often just enough with buttercream. Let me know how it goes.
Elaine
I used your recipe for the stuff buttercream. It is fabulous. My flowers came out beautifully.
Veena Azmanov
Yay, so happy to hear that. Thank you so much for coming back to write this feedback. Love to see the flowers. Please do tag me @veenaazmanov on social media if you share
Yvonne Weimer
Love this buttercream recipe! It tastes delicious and is the perfect consistency for piping flowers. It never fails. This is my go to recipe!!
Veena Azmanov
Thank you so much, Yvonne. So happy you enjoy this recipe. I think it's best for flowers too. Thanks so much for coming back to leave this feedback.
CJ
Looking forward to trying this recipe. For the pudding mix, should it be the regular/cook type of pudding mix, or instant?
Veena Azmanov
Hey CJ, not sure what you find where you are but the one I get is instant which is basically cornstarch with vanilla flavor. Hope this helps.
kay
Hi Veena,
Can you please tell me which eggless buttercream is good to use with Russian piping tips. They are very tricky to work with. I didn't have much luck with them using Whipped cream frosting. Thanks for your help!
Veena Azmanov
Hey, kay, this is an eggless recipe and it's the best for those Russian piping tips.
Yes, they are tricky but quite easy. Fill a bag and practice on a plate first, you will learn it very quickly. It really is just about finding that right technique of press... hold... and release.
Amy
Hi Veena,
I made this recipe to use with russian piping tips before and had no issues but for some reason when i tried again I got a lot of air pockets in the flowers. I redid the recipe twice changing the amount of mixing but still the same result. It isn't droopy or stiff that my hand hurt squeezing them out just a lot of air pockets causing the flowers not to be smooth. Any ideas what the issue could have been this time?
Veena Azmanov
Hey Amy, usually the air pockets are a result of over mixing but if you say that you didn't over mix not sure. Did you change the brand of butter? Are you using whipped butter. Is the butter too stiff when you start mixing - that usually takes time to cream and ends up with over mixing. Sorry, wish I had an answer for you. I can only guess based on what you tell me.
Amy
Same butter and definitely not stiff. I will keep playing with it and limit the mixing more to see if that helps. The only difference from last time is my house was a lot warmer than last time I made some during the winter. Thanks.
Veena Azmanov
Thanks, Amy. I hope it works out better the next time. Thanks for the feedback
Carol McDermott
Absolutely amazing very talented I would love to be able to do the flowers like you ?
Veena Azmanov
Thank you, Carol. yes, a little practice would be necessary.
Damien
Make sure to watch out if you're making buttercream with pudding mix to make it stiff -- It completely throws off coloring. I did this last month and was trying to make stiff purple frosting for decoration, and it ended up a sickly gray-granite color because of the yellow food coloring already present in the pudding mix. Incidentally, it turned out looking kind of cool and the recipient of the cake did not mind the gray frosting, but it was definitely not what I wanted and I was really upset at the time. Live and learn, I guess? At least it tasted pretty good.
Veena Azmanov
Hey Damien. Thank you for that feedback. Very helpful. The pudding mix I get here is white in color. But yes, if yours is any other color than it would be best to use just cornstarch.
Joya
Thank you soooo much for this recipe 😀 I was so happy I tried it after so many failing buttercream recipes
Veena Azmanov
Thank you, Joya. So happy to hear you enjoyed this very much and thanks for coming back to write this feedback.
Arden Kuhn
This is my second post in a month. Seriously Veena, you have taught me to like American Buttercream. I had used this recipe twice now and both batches turned out great. I used this recipe to pipe grass on cupcakes, had to thin out the frosting little by little. The end results were exactly what I had wanted that I could see each strand of grass. Not only does this frosting pipe well, it tastes good (one can always reduce the amount of sugar) but it is creamy and smooth.
Thank you again.
Veena Azmanov
Hey Arden. So happy to hear you are enjoying my Stiff buttercream recipe. I think it is fun with work with piping if you have the right frosting, so sounds like you enjoyed your project. Thank you so much for coming back to write this feedback. I love hearing from those who try my recipes.
Elaine
Ok, so can I use cornstarch instead of the pudding mix or in addition to?? Also, we are talking about the little box of instant pudding, right? If so, what about a white chocolate instant pudding mix? Would that also work instead of vanilla flavored pudding?
Veena Azmanov
yes, you can use cornstarch. Yes, we are talking about instant pudding which is also often cornstarch or arrowroot with flavorings. I have not tried white chocolate instant pudding mix. In fact, I don't get that but I don't see why it won't' work. Please do let us know how it was. It sounds like a wonderful flavor.
Carol
Hello, I just read your blog and I'm so thankful about your blog ang generous infos regarding this buttercream hope this time i can make my russian pipe on my cupcakes without my failed epic..cant wait to try this now for my flower cupcakes...I want to subscribe here..so excited...
Veena Azmanov
Thank you, Carol. Oh you should be able to use the Russian Piping tips with this one beautifully. Thanks
Jennifer
Hi,
I'm new to the cake decorsting! My mum's birthday is coming up and I'd like to make a cake with buttercream flowers and piping. Will the buttercream hold it's shape at room temperature after piped onto cake? Or will it start to melt/lose it definition? Is it best to keep cake in fridge once decorated? (This would be problematic as I doubt if have room!)
Veena Azmanov
Hey Jennifer. Yes these will hold at room temperature. It has butter so hot summer outside is not a good idea. I have tired indoors in summer - no problem. You can store the cake in the fridge or leave it out as long as you have good weather. Keep away from dust and open windows as this is buttercream and things tend to stick to it.
Aleah
Is is ok to use salted butter?
Veena Azmanov
Yes, Aleah. you can use salted butter. But omit salt in the recipe.
Arden Kuhn
I just tried this recipe with my Russian piping tips and it worked great. I only wanted half the recipe so, like Veena said, measuring was important. It was. Thank you for sharing.
Veena Azmanov
Thank you, Arden. SO happy to hear you had success and enjoyed this recipe so much.
Tiffany
Can I use the “adjust servings” button as an accurate way to change the amount of frosting? As I only need two cups, but then that changes the amount of cornstarch/pudding mix to 0.6 cups, and I don’t know what 0.6 cups is or if that will become too little and affect the overall product. Please let me know if I could change this recipe somehow to make only 2 cups, Thankyou!
Veena Azmanov
You can use the adjust servings. I've made the cornstarch to grams - so that will make it about 7 grams - which should be about 1/2 tbsp for 2 cups. I hope this helps.
Casey
I bought flavored pudding mix (coconut). Should I leave out the extracts or will the vanilla and almond taste ok with coconut pudding mix? Do you have to go somewhere special to buy clear vanilla extract?
Veena Azmanov
Hey Casey. You can leave the vanilla. Don't use the almond. I usually buy clear vanilla extract online. I use it only for things like frostings, fondant. etc.
Most often, for baking purposes, I store vanilla beans in my white sugar so when I need clear vanilla I use that batch of vanilla sugar.
Gayle
Hi Veena. I’m in Hawaii and the humidity is very high even in the winter months it could get to 85° or higher all depends. My question is that I’m planning to pipe roses on the side of a cake. Would you suggest I use 1/2 butter and 1/2 shortening instead of all butter? I would like to try not using the shortening due to the greasy feel. Would the roses fall off the sides?
Veena Azmanov
Yes, Gayle. Half and half butter and shortening is good. Yes, I agree with the shortening but if you buy a good quality shortening, it will work fine. Add an extra tsp of vanilla and a drop of almond - that really helps. If possible use vanilla pudding instead of cornstarch - that had a stronger flavor - I hope this helps.
Gayle
Thank you for your prompt response. I just ordered high ratio shortening today.
Veena Azmanov
You are welcome, Gayle.
Gayle
Hi Veena. I finally got to make your Stiff Buttercream and have it a humidity test. I crumb coated my 4 layer 6” round cake and chilled it for 24 hours then made rosettes on the sides and top of the cake and chilled again for another 24 hours. I then took out the cake and left it out on the table in an 84° temp room for about 2 hours to test if the rosettes would slide off. The buttercream got soft but NOTHING slid off. This was the first time making the rosettes on the sides. Thank you for this great recipe. I will be using it again.
Veena Azmanov
Hey Gayle. Thank you so much for the feedback. Appreciate you taking the trouble to come back and update me. Happy to hear this works in high humidity test. yes, it does get soft but does not melt unless you keep it in direct sun. Thanks.
Bree
This sounds absolutely perfect! Do we continue to mix on low the whole time? if not, when do we crank up the speed and to what level?
Veena Azmanov
Yes, Bree. It's always best to cook on medium-low. That's the best way to keep it from overheating. Egg yolks are very delicate so - slow and steady wins the race..!!
bhaavi
hi.. i wanted to ask if the brand of butter also makes any difference. i had used " I Cant believe its not butter" brand which has 45% vegetable oil spread portion on room temp and cornflour but it didnt come as stiff as i expected. should i use shortening or anything else to make it stiff for russian piping roses?
Veena Azmanov
Bhavi, I think what you used is margarine type of butter, not real butter. The water content in that is probably really high. If you don't want to use butter you can use vegetable shortening with high saturated fat. That will work better than margarine.
Bhaavi
Hi .. today I tried making this buttercream icing for Russian flower tips which I was very keen on trying for my daughter’s bday cake but unfortunately it didn’t work for me. I cut off all ingredients in to half to give it a try. I tried to follow each and every step of yours except I used salted butter and omitted salt. At first it was not stiff enough to hold flower shape. So i thought to beat again by adding more sugar but ten it became more thin like ganache consistency. I had beaten that for just few seconds...any idea what went wrong and is there a way I can alter and reuse it ? I don’t want to waste my efforts!
Veena Azmanov
Hey Bhaavi, That does not seem right. If you look at the recipe the proportion of butter to sugar is really high. So, the resulting buttercream has to be stiff. Unless you divided all ingredients except the liquid ingredients. Please check again.
bhaavi
i think the butter what i had used is not real butter, like you said may be its margarine butter. i have kept the whole batch of that buttercream in fridge. Can i alter this by adding vegetable shortening or any thing else ? if yes how much because it is almost like thick ganache consistency.
Veena Azmanov
Hey Bhaavi.You can add vegetable shortening or butter to it but if you planning to pipe flower or need a stiff buttercream then it may be best to make a fresh batch. You can use this one as frosting. Hope this helps
Annabelle
Hi there, may i know can i reduce the powdered sugar to at least 1/2 of it as based on 454g butter and putting 1kg of sugar is really like eating sugar than buttercream. Not so suitable for asian. What will happen if i reduce it to half of it and others i need to adjust?
Veena Azmanov
Annabelle. That amount of sugar is what makes it a stiff buttercream. Otherwise, it will be a soft creamy consistency and the flowers will not be stiff.
Viktoriya
Hello, I want to try to make flowers out of this buttercream, can I make the flowers few days in advance or same day I decorate the cake?
Thank you
Veena Azmanov
Yes you can make them a few days in advance - save them in the fridge or freezer them for longer. Placing them on the cake is easier frozen or chilled
Viktoriya
Thank you
Shari
Do you use instant pudding or cook pudding for this icing?
Veena Azmanov
Instant pudding mix - just the powder - no cooking Shari.
mimi
i have only instant pudding mix with sugar inside.how much powder sugar should i add so it wont be extra sweet?also can i use cocoa powder along with chocolate pudding mix or it is not necessary?
Veena Azmanov
You can reduce the same quantity of sugar as pudding mix and yes you can use cocoa powder or chocolate puddin to make a chocolate buttercream.
Cherese
This recipe is the BEST! And YOU’RE the best for sharing it with the world. This icing totally saved my life, last minute. I thought I’d never be able to achieve “store-bought” texture at home and I can now!! And without the greasy feeling on the roof of my mouth. Lol. I can’t thank you enough. Have I mentioned that you’re the best?? 🙂
Veena Azmanov
Ah, thank you so much, Cherese. So happy this buttercream came to your rescue and you enjoyed it too. Yes, I'm not a big fan of shortening because of that greasy mouthfeel. Thanks for coming back to write this comment, especially ones like this make my day. Have a great day.
Rasha Tayan
Thanks a lot Veena for this perfect recipe. I’ve tried this frosting for decorating my cupcakes. The texture was perfect for piping roses and the taste was delicious, but the problem was I can still feel the sugar grains under my teeth.
Is it normal to feel like that or do you have any advice for me?? As l have used the powdered sugar.
Veena Azmanov
Thank you so much, Rasha. So happy to hear that. Check the quality of powdered sugar. Make sure it's cane sugar not beet sugar.
Hope Fumerton
This is the most unique recipe I have ever seen. I must try this for my granddaughters’ birthday. I make a buttercream frosting that most people tell me tastes amazing, but have never been able to succeed in piping flowers. The girls love flowers... Maybe I will finally be able to make a cake that is delicious and beautiful as well. Thank you for sharing your recipe. I can’t wait to try it!
Hope
Veena Azmanov
Thank you, Hope. I hope you like this buttercream recipe.
Emily
Hello, can someone please translate the recipe to cups instead of sticks And kg? Would be a great help!
Veena Azmanov
Hey Emily, There is a recipe conversion that you can use to switch from metric to Us Customary.
I think in the US most people request for cups, sticks, pounds, and ounces. so I have put the stick and ounces for the conversions.
Anyway, one stick is half cup butter so the original recipe is for 2 cups butter. Unless you change the servings.
I hope this helps. Feel free to ask or suggest
Thanks
Cody
Hello.
I am excited to try this recipe. I was wondering if I can make this buttercream, lemon in some way? Could I use lemon extract instead of almond or should I add lemon in another way?
Thanks!
Veena Azmanov
Absolutely, Cody. You can use a few tablespoons of lemon juice and some lemon extract instead of almond.
Jennifer
Well this did not work for me.
Tried this recipe because I bought Russian piping tips to try out. Wanted to make cupcakes for family visiting and my regular recipe is much too creamy to hold it’s shape.
Well I made this recipe to the letter. First thing that happened was the frosting came out in the tip like an ugly glob. I wound up throwing my bags in the fridge to try to stiffen them up. It kept being too soft so I had to alternate piping then putting t back in the fridge. Then as I tried piping I managed to get one somewhat decent one, then the bag broke, spilling frosting and then the one decent cupcake I made fell on the floor.
So I just sat on the kitchen floor and cried for a while.
Will not try this recipe again
Veena Azmanov
Hi Jennifer, Sorry, you're having a bad frosting day and sorry this recipe did not work for you. This recipe is for a stiff frosting so does not make sense that your frosting was an ugly blob. I Some people find it too stiff so need to add liquid to loosen it. Please check to see if you have used the recipe correctly. There is only 1/4 cup cream that's 4 tbsp liquid with 1 kg powdered sugar. It should not be a blob at all.
Piping with Russian tips does need a little practice time. Using a plate to practice piping and getting the technique right before you attempt a cupcake might be a good way to start.
I hope you find a frosting that works for you. Have a good day. Thanks for the feedback.
Renee Roush
This is THE buttercream recipe for piping! I just started learning to pipe flowers and was beginning to think I just wasn't going to be able to learn the skill. I thought I'd give it one final go today, with this frosting recipe, and I made my first perfect roses! THANK YOU VEENA! It was the frosting consistency that was keeping me from being successful. What a fun day I had, piping flowers and decorating mini layer cakes. 🙂
Veena Azmanov
Thank you so much, Renee. So happy to hear you had success with this recipe and that you managed to make your buttercream roses. I love this buttercream too for flowers. You are very welcome and thank you for coming back to write this feedback. Have a wonderful day.
Linda
Hi Veena, I am so happy I found your blog. I am excited to try your recipe for the stiffer buttercream. I just got some Russian tips. After reading your blog questions and answers I have one question. People have commented about the frosting being crusty. What does that mean? Is it crusty to the taste or is it still smooth and creamy to the taste? Thank you so much! Linda
Veena Azmanov
Hey Linda, Crusty refers to the fact that after you apply it to the cake, buttercreams with less liquid will continue to dry when left out depending on the weather of course. Dry weather the buttercream will crust faster. Does not affect the taste. If you keep in the fridge it won't crust of course. This one works great for those Russian Piping Tips
Linda
Thanks Veena, I am so glad to have found you and your blog. I just started following you on Pinterest too! You are so knowledgeable and helpful! Thanks again, Linda
Veena Azmanov
Thank you so much, Linda. Welcome to my blog. Feel free to ask any questions.
Sara
Hi! This recipe looks amazing, but I have a question. I am looking for a recipe that can be used on cupcakes for an outdoor party in high humidity and heat. Is this recipe good for cupcakes? Will it hold up to outdoor temps, or should I substitute half of the butter for shortening? Also, do you find that using pudding mix instead of cornstarch makes the frosting too sweet? Thanks in advance for your response!
Veena Azmanov
Hey Sara, This one does work well in my middle eastern heat and humidity but then again it's butter so don't expect it to not melt out in the sun. You can use half shortening and half butter if you want more stability. The pudding mix I get her is not sweet just cornstarch and flavoring !! You can use this recipe on cakes or cupcakes.
Rayana McGuire
Hello there, again!!
Also, I only have three sticks of unsalted butter, so I am going to use one salted stick in its place. How much salt should I use?
Veena Azmanov
You can use unsalted butter - just reduce the amount of salt in the recipe by a little. Thanks
Rayana McGuire
Hello!!
In fear of overmixing the buttercream, can you recommend the best or ideal way to add the gel color including things like the type of utensil, mixing method (stir or fold), and how long is too long?
Thank you!!
Veena Azmanov
It does not take long to mix the colrs. Just add a drop and stir - not too vigorously. Mine takes a minute or so.
Anne French
This sounds wonderful. Will the buttercream melt in hot climates and the warmth from your hands? That is why I'm not using my usual American buttercream recipe right now. Will the cornstarch prevent this from happening? Thank you!
Anne
Veena Azmanov
Hey Anne. I use this weather here in the middle east. It is stable but if out in the hot weather it may still melt. It all depends on the humidity and temperature where you are. Thanks
Kia
Can you use this same recipe and make a cream cheese flavored icing .
Veena Azmanov
I would recommend you use my cream cheese recipes instead - I have two - Creamy Cheese Buttercream Frosting and no butter cream cheese frosting . Thanks
Teresa
Hi!
I stumbled upon your recipe thru google search. It sounds super simple to make! I was wondering if I can pipe flowers on a flower nail using this recipe and then freeze them to add to cakes/cupcakes later. Do you find that the gel colors run at all when defrosting? How long do you think I can store them in the freezer for?
Veena Azmanov
Hey Teresa. Yes, you can definitely pipe flowers on a flower nail and place them in the freezer. That's what I did with this spring cake too! If you see this cake tutorial you will see I made all flowers on the nail then placed them frozen on the cake. You can store flowers in the freeze for a month really. just be careful with freezer burns. That can affect them when thawing.. too much ice crystal when thawing will cause them to melt.
Lisa
I also live in Israel. Is it possible to make this frosting parve? I need a stiff frosting for piping, but schools/kindergartens require cakes be parve. Any advice would be helpful. Thanks!
Veena Azmanov
Hey Lisa. You can make this recipe parve - use half margarine and half Crisco or veg shortening. I buy Crisco from Meatland here in Ra'anana. I hope this helps.
Lisa
It does! But what about the whipping cream? I know you can whip coconut milk. Do you think this would work?
Veena Azmanov
I have not tried coconut milk Lisa but technically it should not be an issue.
Susan
Made this frosting last week - amazing and delicious. In order to make completely pareve and vegan, I used 2 sticks of corn oil margarine and 16 Tbl of white shortening. I also used Rich Whip - I was worried it would adversely affect the taste but it worked out perfectly. I used cornstarch, not pudding but it still tasted great. Also used regular brown vanilla but the frosting was pure white. Thanks for a great recipe that takes so well to substitutions!
Veena Azmanov
Thank you, Susan. So happy this worked for you. I too use white shortening to make it parve. Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for coming back to write this feedback. Have a lovely week.
Emily
Hi Veena...I just stumbled on your site a couple of days ago, and plan on trying to make my own fondant for my daughter's second birthday cake, using your recipe. I fear marshmallow fondant will be TOO sweet. I am doing a fondant covered cake, and have always read that a crusting buttercream under fondant as a crumb coat at least, is best. I live in Canada, and her birthday is at the end of May - is this recipe okay to put between layers and crumb coat under fondant? Thanks so much for your help!
Veena Azmanov
Hey Emily. Welcome to my blog. Glad you found me. This recipe is great and will definitely work for crumb coat and under fondant but this recipe was specifically made for buttercream flowers for places with high humidity. I don't think you doing any of that. So you can also use my Velvet American Buttercream under fondant. Having said that if you want something less sweet go with a meringue buttercream - try either Swiss or Italian.
Diane
Just wondering about the pudding that gets added,,,is it instant or the cooked kind??
Thanks
D.F.
Veena Azmanov
Hey Diane - its' just instant pudding powder thanks
Johnette Cone
When you say "pudding powder" do you mean instant pudding like Jello brand?
Veena Azmanov
Johnette. Yes, Pudding is flavored cornstarch actually. Not sure of jello brand but this is not jello.
Johnette Cone
Thank you. I am in the states and I have never seen flavored cornstarch. The pudding mix I am thinking of is the kind you add milk to and eat as pudding/pie filling. I am guessing that is NOT what I want. I will try to find a flavored cornstarch. Thanks again.
Veena Azmanov
Yes, that is the one. You add mix to it and eat it like a pudding. If you read the labels behind it should usually say cornstarch as the ingredients, some will have arrowroot and that's ok too.
Mary
Thank you so much for sharing this recipe.. may i ask if its safe to eat uncooked cornstarch? Specially for kids? Thank you
Veena Azmanov
Yes it is safe to eat cornstarch Mary. There is cornstarch in powder sugar as well. Also when you use puddings to whip cream that pudding powder is actually flavored cornstarch. Thanks
debjani
Hi maam, how do I recognize pure cane sugar and beet sugar.My buttercream is grainy , Please help.
Veena Azmanov
It should be written on the package 'made from... " thanks
debjani
thanks
Veena Azmanov
You are very welcome Debjani
dianne
i am about to ice and decorate my 1st dolly varden cake tomorrow for my granddughters 3rd birthday its a rainbow cake with butter cream layers. any tips - can i use your recipe to cover cake and them tip and use it for layers as well or is it too firm to do that> thank you all the help i can get is appreciated:)
Veena Azmanov
Yes you can definitely use this recipe to cover your cake as well as decorate with the tips. You can add a few tablespoons of cream, milk or water to make the consistency spreadable for filling and coating the cake. Keep it stiff for piping. Have fun.
Kerry
I'm wondering how you get some of the flowers so white if the recipe uses butter.
Veena Azmanov
My butter is not really very yellow - You probably can see it in some of my videos. It's not as yellow. Also if you cream butter well it tends to lightly up slightly. Thanks Kerry
Kerry
Thank you. Can't wait to try
Veena Azmanov
You are welcome Kerry
Melissa
Approximately how many cupcakes do you feel this recipe frosts? I am making a pull apart cupcake with only about 25 cupcakes and not sure if I need to make a whole batch.
Veena Azmanov
For 25 cupcakes you probably only need about half - with some left over frosting.
Dawn
Just wondering how much 1 k of confectioners sugar is
Veena Azmanov
1 kg is about 2 lbs.
Natisha
Tried this recipe last week and it was the best buttercream flowers I ever made. The frosting was so delicious too. Never knew an all butter frosting could make flowers like this. Never using Crisco frosting ever again. Thanks for sharing
Veena Azmanov
Thank you Natisha - Happy to hear you have great success with this recipe. Thank you so much for coming back to write this feedback, appreciate it very much.
Mihiri
Hi Veena!
I live in a VERY hot and humid area (just above the equator!) and I have tried 3 butter cream recipes (1 of which was a swiss meringue... literally a total flop!), but am yet to find one that can actually “hold it’s own head up”! 😛
You mentioned that shortening/white fat or ghee can be used to substitute half the quantity of butter?
I’m just wondering, how would margarine fare instead? Would that help it keep stiffer than pure buttercream?
There is no vegetable shortening available where I am, and my only other option is ghee; I had never considered using ghee in any dessert before, and I’m a bit nervous about that? Does ghee alter the taste radically?
Thanks in advance!
Veena Azmanov
Mihiri, I too live in very hot and humid weather. I use all butter buttercream but work in a full air conditioned room. You can definitely use veg shortening to substitute half butter and that usually works better in hot weather. I have tired it and it does have a longer shelf life. I once piped cupcake swirls in hot weather and kept them at room temperature for about 4 to 5 hours and they still held well. Just use much less (or no liquid) in the buttercream to keep it stiff and less sweet. I have not tried ghee - so make a small batch and see how it fares.
Mihiri
Thanks Veena!
Debbie
Best buttercream I've used. Quite firm and not too sweet. Thanks for sharing your recipes, hints and tips. Liked and subscribed to your YouTube channel too!!
Veena Azmanov
Thank you, Debbie. So happy you like my recipe and detailed post. Thanks for coming back to write this feedback.
Sonam jain
Hi Veena
I am from India. Have certain questions regarding whipping cream. As in India we get whipping cream in liquid form with sugar and suppose to whip it to make it stiff by itself without mixing anything. So this whip cream in recipe is in liquid form or whipped form. Apart from that we get regular dairy cream. Which one to use. And also mesurment in grams will def. Help us better.
Thankyou
Veena Azmanov
Sonam in India you get non dairy whipping cream. That's not the same as this. The non dairy you find is already with stabilizers so you do not need to do anything to it. The whipping cream I am using here is full fat cream from dairy. That works with the methods I have given you here.
Fathima
Hi does this recipe have a video tutorial?
Veena Azmanov
No Fathima - there is not video for this recipe. It's a really simple and straight forward recipe. There is a tutorial on how to make the Buttercream flowers though called Spring Buttercream Basket of Flowers.
Dilgal
Can you please share half of the recipe.i mean for a small batch.thanks
Veena Azmanov
Just divide the ingredients in half and you have half the recipe Dilgal.
Mandy Galarza
I don't have a stand mixer. Can I use an egg beater?
Veena Azmanov
I don't know what an egg beater is but you can use a hand whisk too! just have to do a lot of mixing lol
Julie
Can I use regular mixer I don't have a paddle mixer
Veena Azmanov
Yes of course Julie, you can use a regular mixer with paddle attachment - Thanks
Diana Emmons
Thank you for sharing this! I've been working with Russian Piping tips for just a little over a year now and finding a buttercream recipe that is not too stiff or too loose has been a large problem. I can't wait to try this on the two cakes I have to make for upcoming family birthdays! So love this blog!
Veena Azmanov
Thank you Diana. I know what you mean I've been down that struggle which is why I have this long post with so much information. Hoping that more people will read and have more success quickly. Have fun with your cakes. Feel free to ask any questions.
Valerie Rodriguez
Hi! I'm making rosettes on a cake, and usually they fell of the cake..why is that and what type of frosting should I use?
Veena Azmanov
Are you trying to put the roses on the side of the cake? If the frosting on the cake is soft the flowers will slide. You have to find a way to anchor the flowers. Also take into account the weather temperature. If the weather is warm then the buttercream will get soft and of course the flowers will slide. You can keep every thing really cold and only take the cake out for display.
Bonnie
Hello, I am so happy I found your site. I have recently bought some Russian piping tips. Two kinds, the ones that make flowers and ones that say they are for cupcakes and make large swirls on top of the cupcake. I am new to this but it looks so fun:) I am making cupcakes for my grandaughters birthday. Which of your buttercream recipes should I use for the Russian Cupcake Swirl type piping tip? Thanks so much for sharing your expertise:)
Veena Azmanov
Hey Bonnie. This buttercream would definitely be perfect to use with any Russian Piping tips as it is firm and will hold the share of the flowers or ruffles really well. Thanks
Bonnie
Thanks so much for your prompt reply!! Happy I found your site:)
Veena Azmanov
Thank you Bonnie
Leah Raspberry
Hello, can meringue powder be used instead of cornstarch?
Veena Azmanov
You can add meringue powder but it does not replace the cornstarch. Use pudding mix instead. Meringue powder will make the buttercream more crusty.
Leah Raspberry
Thank you so much!....cornstarch it is!
Veena Azmanov
You are welcome Leah.
Burrows
Thank you so much for these recipes. I really love making them. I use them with you buttercream recipe which is our favorite. Thank you for sharing these recipes.
Veena Azmanov
Thank you so much Burrows. Happy to hear you are enjoying my recipes. Appreciate you taking the time to write this feedback. Thanks
Sana
Hi, does the whip cream need to be at room temperature too?
Do you have any experience of piping roses with Chocolate Swiss Meringue Buttercream? Would love to hear . Thanks!
Veena Azmanov
Hey Sana, Yes the whipped cream at room temperature will work better than cold but I've used cold as well and it's not been a big issue either ways.
The butter at room temperature is really important. I have piped flowers with Swiss meringue buttercream and they do turn out nice. Not tired chocolate Swiss Meringue flowers but don't see why it should not work. Depending on how well your Swiss Meringue is whipped will affect the resulting flowers.
Flora
I never thought of adding cornstarch to all buttercream frosting is such a good idea I have a question regarding this buttercream versus The Velvet buttercream used for also decorating cakes. I I am going to be making a cake using a Wilton mold and I will be decorating the cake using mainly start tips and the weave tip for hair. I to live in a humid environment and I was wondering if this would be a more stable buttercream to use for decorating the cake or would you think the other buttercream recipe would just hold up as much is there a huge difference in taste between the two buttercream recipes I really appreciate your help thank you sincerely flora
Veena Azmanov
If you live in a hot and humid climate you probably want to use this buttercream for piping. I love my Velvet American Buttercream and it can be piped really well with a piping bag too. If you live in a humid place reduce the liquid in the buttercream to make it more stiff.
Denise
Hello, thank you for this excellent recipe. I will be trying it soon. One question. The pudding mix. Is it the kins you cook or the instant pudding mix. Also is it vanilla. Pudding.
Thank you Denise McDougal
Veena Azmanov
Hi Denise. you can use any flavor of pudding as long as the flavor works with your cake. I use the instant pudding mix. I mostly use vanilla but again if you like add a flavored one too! Feel free to ask any more questions if you have. Thanks
RabeenaAzar
How can I store this buttercream until I use it?
Veena Azmanov
You can leave it out for two days. If it's longer just leave it in the fridge. It does have a longer shelf life than two days but I've never kept it so long.
RabeenaAzar
Is this a Crusting Buttercream? Can I decrease the amount as half as 250g butter and 500g icing sugar.? And what do you prefer for making buttercream, whisk or paddle?
Veena Azmanov
I always use a paddle attachment for my buttercream. You can half the recipe successfully. This does crust but butter from the fridge causes condensation
Amanda
Hi.
This looks amazing! I have a question though.
I have always bought our icing sugar. Not icing mixture (as icing mixture contained cornstarch)
I read somewhere that you don't want the one with cornstarch as it can make the buttercream grainy and not as smooth as it does not "dissolve" into the butter like the sugar does.
I'm just wondering how you found the texture of this buttercream? I love the smooth soft creamy buttercream I usually make and everyone raves about, but I recently bought some Russian piping tips and it is MUCH too soft to get definition in the flowers.
Veena Azmanov
I always use powder sugar/ icing sugar that comes with cornstarch. I don't think it's the cornstarch that makes it grainy but the quality of sugar used in the icing sugar. You want to make sure it's cane sugar not beet sugar. This buttercream if mixed correction is no grainy. This will work with Russian Piping tips for sure
RabeenaAzar
Thank you so much for sharing this recipe. Can I use this buttercream to decorate a cake which is frosted by whipped cream? And can I use milk instead of whipping cream in this recipe. Because I am having whipped cream powder only.
Veena Azmanov
Not sure I understand your question Rabeena - Why do you want to frost a cake with buttercream after it has been frosted with whipped cream? If your can is frosted with whipped cream you can make flowers using this buttercream and place them on the cake. The buttercream is a bit heavier than whipped cream so you will have to place them very carefully.
Yes, you can use milk instead of cream
courtney
Hi Veena - I'm SO excited to try your recipe for my daughter's birthday cupcakes this Sunday. I plan to ice about 3-4 dozen cupcakes and a small cake for the birthday girl with Russian piping tips and add edible butterflies. I usually ice cupcakes the morning of the party but I was wondering if I could do them the night before and either leave them out or refrigerate? Or even just do the small cake that way? I know refrigeration might dry out the cake but I don't care with her small cake. She's only going to be 1! Would they get totally ruined/melt? I want them to look amazing and taste good but I also don't want to be stressed out the morning before the 11am the party trying to pipe the cupcakes. I have a lot of people and three little kids...I appreciate your advice and what you would do in my situation re preparing the icing/piping/storing etc, thanks! And I can't wait to play around when I have more time!
Veena Azmanov
Courtney you can definitely do them the night before and leave them out unless it's really hot and melting temperature. This buttercream will stay well and the cupcakes will be soft and fresh even in summer. It's always best to do as much as you can ahead of time. So do as much you can ahead of time.
Cassie
Hi! I'm new to piping flowers so I will admit to not knowing much about different kind of frosting or what consitancy is best for piping. Tomorrow is my mother/sisters birthday and I am making cupcakes for them. The cupcakes I plan to try my hand on piping roses on each of the cupcakes. Is this a good recipe for simple rose piping on a cupcake? The cupcakes will also be eaten maybe 6/8 hours after piping them. I plan to have them sit out for show for a bit. Do I need to worry about the frosting doing anything weird with being left out for show?
Veena Azmanov
Cassie I usually use my Velvet American Buttercream for cupcakes but if I need pretty stiff flowers then I use this buttercream. And if you need to keep it out for 8 hours.. this would definitely be better.
Reem yehya
Hi veena can we use syrup instead of powdersugar if yes please send me a syrup recipe thank you
Veena Azmanov
Hey Reem, you cannot use syrup in this recipe. You need to make Italian Meringue buttercream if you want to use hot syrup. This will not work with syrup Thanks
Avita Bansee
Hi
The buttercream was perfect for piping. i have been air drying at room temperature for a day but bottoms are not solid. Is this ok? I need the flowers in two weeks. How should I store them? I hear freezing is good, but I am concerned about condensation. Thanks for the great recipe and advice!
Veena Azmanov
Avita.. Are you planning to keep them out for two weeks? I highly recommed you freeze them on a tray. When frozen you can place them in a box. They will stay better and fresh. There will be condensation but keep the cake in the fridge at first. Once it comes to fridge temperature bring them out. That will be ok.
Mitu
Hi Veena, my name is Mitu and I live in UK. Today is my daughter's 6th birthday and see requested me to bake flowers and butterflies cake.
Keeping in mind I'm not a great baker, I came across your stiff buttercream recipe for Russian flowers. In practice I tried quite a few recipe however today your recipe was a life saver.
I want to thank you so much for sharing your recipe online.
Veena Azmanov
Thank you so much Mitu. So happy to hear your positive feedback. I'm always happy to hear from people who use my recipes especially motivates me to know it was successful. Thanks so much for commenting. Happy Birthday to you daughter.
maria in nj
Veena in the US our bags of sugar are 2 lb packages...would you just use less cream?
Veena Azmanov
I understand you have 2 lbs bags but I'm sure you can measure it and add just the right amount necessary for this recipe.
Ankita
LOL
Karolina
Is 1/4 of this recipe enough to decorate 6 inch cake(just to decorate the top edge)?
Veena Azmanov
I think that should be ok. Depends on how much you pipe. But sounds enough
Andrea
I looked at two of of your butter cream recipes; both of them look great. Since I do not have any experience with decoration I would like to know which one would work better with Russian piping (this recipe or the Velvet Butter Cream). I also would like to make a cake for my granddaughter and use butter cream under a covering of marzipan (I do not like fondant). Is it possible? If yes, do you have any suggestions. Thank you very much.
Veena Azmanov
I use both buttercream recipes very successfully with Russian Piping tips. If you are new to piping I'd highly recommend this buttercream as it's stiff just as needed for the Russian Piping tips.
Andrea
Thank you very much. Is it possible to use marzipan instead of fondant to decorate a cake.
Veena Azmanov
Yes you can use Marzipan to cover a cake Andrea. Just use a panel method instead of a drape method. Meaning you cut a round disc for the top of your cake then cut a long strip for the sides of you cake. To attach just spread jam on the cake. Then dress with marzipan and use your hands or smoother to smooth. Use powder sugar to roll not corn starch.
Andrea
Thank you very much.
Veena Azmanov
you are welcome Andrea.
Ali
First of all thank you so much for this awesome buttercream recipe! I made it last week and it turned out perfect but I had a small issue, the salt didn't get mixed no matter how much I mixed it. I used vegetable shortening instead of butter because when I use butter the buttercream gets runny since it is really warm in my country. It would be very helpful if you could advice me on this. This was the only recipe which helped me get the stiff texture in buttercream. I wondee why the salt didn't get mixed ?
Veena Azmanov
Table Salt takes a minute to mix unless you used coarse crystal. Next time perhaps powder it? Perhaps mix it in with the first cup of sugar and add in so it will be mixed thoroughly.
Taylor
This recipe looks wonderful! I was wondering if it would be a good one to use for icing detailed sugar cookies as well?
Veena Azmanov
You can use it on cookies if you want to make buttercream cookies but buttercream won't go hard as Royal Icing or stiff as fondant so you can't stack them because it will always stay soft. XX
Elizabeth
Can you just use a regular mixer when making this ice my?
Veena Azmanov
Yes of course Elizabeth.. You can use a regular mixer - no problem. Just make sure you do not over beat it so not too much air will get incorporated.
Austin
Hi, I have teo questions hopefully you may answer.
1. Can I sub this with shortening to cover a dummy cake?
2. How much of the recipe should I make to cover a 10" x 4" dummy cake?
I never made American Buttercream or its variations, I've always used swiss buttercream so I'm unsure how to go about with the sizing up or down. Thank you!
Veena Azmanov
You can use shortening - you may need more powder sugar to get to the consistency. How much buttercream you need will depend on the amount of sugar flowers you plan to make. I used this batch to cover this cake which is an 9 inc oval. Hope that helps
Sarah
I live in the tropics where it's very hot and humid, so I have to use a half and half butter and shortening mix. The only problem that I have with this is that the shortening never mixes in properly with the rest of the ingredients. I've started melting my shortening and then adding it. That's helped a lot, but I still can not pipe with a fine tip as the shortening "lumps" clog the tips. I would appreciate any advice on this please!
Veena Azmanov
Sarah if you melt the shortening it become liquid so which means your resulting buttercream is very soft and thin consistency. I would highly recommend not melting it so the buttercream will be stiffer and more suitable for piping. I live in Israel and here it's hot and humid too! but with the air conditioning on I can use this recipe.
Deepz
Hi Ma'am...
Is it OK to use the pudding mix uncooked?
Veena Azmanov
Yes Deepz - You can actually eat corn raw so the flour is an extension of it... Pudding is just cornstarch powder with flavoring. And it's found in many many ingredients - for example in powder sugar? We dust powder sugar over desserts all the time - right? It has either corn flour or potato starch which are both raw.
Bec
Hey veena
This buttercream sounds delicious! I was Just wondering if I can pipe these flowers in advance? Could I pipe and store in the feeezer until I decorate the cake??
Thanksheaps!
Veena Azmanov
Yes Bec you can pipe them on a small square of parchment paper - save them in the fridge for a day or more.. or freeze them for longer. Then add them to the cake when ever ready <3
Faafua
Thank you for sharing.
If I can't find unsalted butter will salted one be good, and take off the extra teaspoon salt?
And is this sweet?
Veena Azmanov
Yes you can use salted butter and remove the salt in the recipe. Yes, this buttercream is sweet!! The sugar is necessary for consistency
Roberta
Hello, love your flowers! The list of ingredients does not have "cornflower" in it, but in the directions "cornflour" is listed. Since it has heavy cream in it will it sour if left out on counter?
Veena Azmanov
Roberta. The list of ingredients does have cornflower/cornstarch or pudding mix - you can use anyone. All whipped cream cakes are to be kept in the fridge - not out on the counter.
Laurel
This is the best piping recipe ever! I first tried some of Wilton's recipes, but the consistency was not that great and it was overly stiff. This recipe creates the smoothest flowers and is so easy to pipe without straining your hand. Definitely will be my go-to recipe from now on - thanks so much for sharing it!
Veena Azmanov
Aww thank you Laurel. You just made my day. I love getting feedback and when it's a lovely feedback like this .. awesome. So happy to hear you had a great time working with it. Finding the right icing and consistency can make such a huge difference.
Michelle
I am new to making buttercream and was wondering if I can use this recipe for a 2 layer 9" cake as filling, crumb coat, and piping? I attempted a birthday cake last year for my daughter and the buttercream I made was not stiff enough and this sounds perfect.
Veena Azmanov
Yes Michelle. This should be enough to fill, coat and make flowers for on a 9 inch cake.
Kathy
I need a good decorating frosting recipe that can bold up in high humidity/heat(80 degree)
Veena Azmanov
This should be good Kathy. Try it and let me know Thanks
Vicky
Hi,
Love your recipe! Can you reduce the sugar or use regular sugar instead? I love the consistency but not the amount of sugar. Also, (you can tell I'm very new to baking) how can you portion and mix colors into the icing? I tried it once and I think I made my icing melt. 🙁
Veena Azmanov
Vicky. You can add less sugar but the icing consistency will be really soft and you won't be able to pipe firm sugar flowers. For coloring the icing just portion them and use gel food colors not water based colors.
Sol
This is gorgeous!!! How do you get to that beautiful colors without making the BC taste bad??
Veena Azmanov
There is not bad taste with my colors Sol. I use Magic Colors and have been using it for year now. Try looking for them online. Magic Colors Gel Paste
Rayana McGuire
Hello. I have realized that I have no heavy whipping cream and my butter is already room temperature. Is there a substitute for the heavy whipping cream?
Veena Azmanov
YOu can just use milk. Use less than heavy cream depending on the consistency you need.
Rayana McGuire
Thank you. I appreciate you. This recipe is wonderful!!
Veena Azmanov
Thank you so much Rayana
Marie
Hi Veena! I am a NEWBIE to Butter Cream and Decorating cakes! This looks like the recipe I have been looking for to use with my Russian piping tips! I want to make sure my flowers don't droop! Your Pink Champagne Butter cream sounds and looks AMAZING! I think I better stick with the regular butter cream till I make sure I can get it right!
Is there a way to make this sugar free with like Splenda?
Thanks
Marie in Georgia USA!
Veena Azmanov
Marie. I have not tried it with splenda so I do not know if this will work. You can make flowers with Pink Champagne buttercream just use reduce the liquid ingredient
Marie
Hello Veena! I am a NEWBIE to Butter Cream and Decorating cakes. I actually just purchased some Russian Piping tips! This looks like the Butter Cream frosting I have been searching for to make sure flowers and such are not droopy! Is there a way to make this sugar free? Such as Splenda instead of powdered sugar? Looking forward to more of your recipes! The Pink Champagne Butter Cream Looks amazing but think I better make sure my Butter Cream works out!
Veena Azmanov
You can make flowers with Pink Champagne buttercream just use reduce the liquid ingredient
Diana R
I tried this recipe as soon as my Russian piping tips came in. IT IS WONDERFULLY PERFECT! I got so many compliments on the taste as well (my coworkers were my visual and taste testers). 🙂
Do you think if I used chocolate pudding mix it would give it a dark enough color and flavor as a chocolate frosting would? And I guess color wouldn't matter too much as I can always mix some brown gel in it.
Thank you for sharing this recipe!
Veena Azmanov
Thank you Diana..! SO happy to hear that it was well received. Yes you can use chocolate pudding as well as use some melted chocolate to get a nice chocolate buttercream. It would taste wonderful.
Claudia duran
Can i use this frosting to do a naked cake?
Veena Azmanov
Yes you can Claudia. It's a bit stiff. Or you can try my Velvet American Buttercream Recipe
JADE KEYS
This is an awesome recipe, I was wondering what effect does the pudding have on the icing? If I want to use this just to crumb coat and ice my cake, how do I get it not as stiff? Thanks!
Veena Azmanov
The pudding is more for flavor. You can add a few tablespoons of water, cream or milk to bring it to the consistency you need. Or you can try my Velvet American Buttercream Recipe.
Karen
When you use instant pudding are you using vanilla pudding?
Veena Azmanov
You can use any flavor you want Karen. As long as you like the flavor it adds. For example if you use lemon pudding..it will give you lemon flavored buttercream.... your choice.
Margaret Rose
Hi I love your pipping, it's beautiful. I would like to know when you use pudding in this recipe is it instant pudding?? Thank you
Veena Azmanov
Yes Margaret Instant pudding works great!
Rachael
Does it matter if the vanilla used is regular (not clear) vanilla? I know it may affect color but I'm using food coloring anyway. Does the amount need to be changed?
Veena Azmanov
NO if you going to color it anyways it does not matter if you use the regular vanilla. You can use the same quantity too.
Kim Oborne
When substituting 1/2 shortening would you add 228 grams and 2 sticks of butter?
Veena Azmanov
Yes divide the fat between half butter and half veg shortening. Then adjust powder sugar or liquid when checking for consistency
Kayla Carr
This recipe looks awesome! Quick question: I'm planning on making 16 dozen (!) cupcakes for my graduation party and decorating them with Russian piping tips. Would this buttercream or your Velvet American buttercream be better? And about how many batches of buttercream do you think I would need to make? Thank you so much!!
Veena Azmanov
Kayla you can make this or the velvet buttercream but this will be a bit more easier to pipe firm flowers. I think one batch of this should do approximately 4 dozen depending on how much you pipe on each cupcake.
Kayla
Thank you! Do you know about how many cups of powdered sugar you use in one batch of this frosting? 🙂
Veena Azmanov
1 kg powder sugar is about 8 cups.. 1 kg is approx 2 lbs.
Nieke
Hi dear..
In recipe you use whipping cream. Which one did you use powder, liquid or cream?
Thanks for the recipe..
Veena Azmanov
You can use liquid for the consistency. I do no use any powder just milk or cream
Gayla Fulenwider
Where is the recipe? Cannot find it.
Veena Azmanov
The recipe is in the post and it's twice..! Once in the post and second below in the recipe card to print.
Rachael
Question -- For the Russian tips, which icing do you recommend?? Both times you referred to using the tips you had used your velvet frosting. I have had success with my tips only once, so I am really looking for something that will work. No more thrown away icing.
Also, for roses/flowers in general I'll try your suggested stuff bc recipe. I've also searched in vain for a good rose recipe as well.
Thanks,
Rachael
Veena Azmanov
If you are use to piping then you will have no issues using the Velvet American Buttercream for Russian Piping tips. I have an emotional attachment with my VABC because it gets rave reviews from my customers plus I have it all the time in the fridge so I use it because it's convenient. |
But if I had to make a a buttercream just for flowers - then this is it. Makes my life so much easier. Hope that answers your question.
carol Tamburo
I made this frosting today to use with my flower tips Thank you so much for sharing the recipe it was wonderful
Veena Azmanov
I am so happy to hear that Carol.. Thank you so much for giving me your feedback. Thank you !
Daiva
Hi, I have got a problem...done everything as receipe says...but the sugar powder is not melting and the butter cream is grainy...have idea what to do....
Veena Azmanov
Powder sugar will melt with liquid Daiva.. May be it's way too stiff. You need a few tbsp of milk, cream or water and mix some more.. Is the brand of powder sugar you using very thick? Check the quality of powder sugar.. but for now - add a little bit of liquid.
Emma @ Supper in the suburbs
Your piping looks beauitful. I didn't realise it was better to have stiffer buttercream!
Veena Azmanov
It's definitely better to have stiffer buttercream Emma- makes the flowers hold their shape better
Dannii
This is absolutely incredible. I can't believe that is frosting! It puts my piping skills to shame for sure!
Veena Azmanov
Thank you Dannii.
Mindy Fewless
These are so pretty!! Love the video too! 🙂
Veena Azmanov
Thank you Mindy.
Vicky @ Avocado Pesto
Wow this is absolutely gorgeous! I am always amazed when people have the skills to make these types of edible flowers! I feel like my hands are way too shaky and overall I do not have the attention to detail nor patience to make something that looks like perfect!
Veena Azmanov
Thank you Vicky.. I know what you mean. I started off like that too.. but over the year have gained practice.
Folashade
Hi, thanks for this recipe. I have Kenwood k beater, can I use it to mix this recipe, in place of a paddle attachment
Veena Azmanov
You can use your mixer Folashade. just don't over mix - we need to prevent air pockets in the frosting.
Folashade
Thank you so much for the quick response. I'll sure try it out
Veena Azmanov
You are welcome Folashade