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  1. 5 stars
    I’m curious as to why the 13×4 recipe is not 1.5x the 9×4 recipe, as you suggested in the comments. It was the amount of butter listed in the 13×4 recipe that caused me to go back and compare that list of ingredients to 1.5x the 9×4 recipe. Regardless, this recipe is better than any other Japanese milk bread recipe I’ve tried, including the King Arthur recipe. I make it in a ChefMade ~13x5x5 (2.2lb) pullman pan, using the lid to make a flat-topped loaf. My husband is quite impressed with my ‘store-bought’ sandwich bread. 😄 (And I’m now making bread for others who are trying to avoid the glyphosate in their favorite butter-bread sandwich bread.) Thank you SO much, Veena!

    1. Rebecca, I hate to admit that I don’t know why the recipe does not do exactly 1.5 times, it should!
      But all my recipes are tested and tried, and so when I tested the 13-inch, it needed tweaking, that’s how the measure is not exact 1.5X.
      But, this measure has worked a few times.
      I’m happy you agree with me and are enjoying my recipe.
      Thanks for the feedback.

  2. Hi, can I make it without the milk powder? Otherwise, could I substitute it with something else? Thank you!

  3. My loaf came out a little dense. Any ideas?

    1. Check the amount of flour you use. Next time add a few tablespoon more water if necessary. Also, make sure to proof until double in size before baking.

  4. Linda Krieger says:

    5 stars
    I really need to ask you. Can this recipe be baked in a 13x4x4′ Pullman bread pan with the lid on? In one continuous loaf perhaps?

    1. Linda, the pan size mentioned in the recipe is a 9 4 x 4 loaf pan so no, the dough will be small for a 13x4x4 inch pan. You can use 1 1/2 times this recipe for a 13-inch loaf pan. Thanks

    2. 5 stars
      Great recipe and thanks for the many different measurements. I have the 13 and the 9 inch so both options work great for me. Its a delicious bread too.

      1. Hey Donna. previously the recipe was a 9-inch loaf pan but since more people requested the 13 inch – the recipe was updated to make a 13-inch loaf. But, you can make a very tall 9-inch loaf with this dough as well.

  5. 5 stars
    My bread is delicious, but I have a couple of questions. First my dough was too wet and thus unworkable. It was so loose and sticky that I could not really make the rolls. I just separated the dough into four blobs and put those in the pan. Next time, if I see the dough is staying too soft can I add a couple tablespoons of flour during kneading in my mixer?
    Even after the butter goes in?

    The other issue is that the loaf was sort of concave on the sides. This could be related to the wet dough I’m sure. The oven spring on this bread is huge so the loaf is really tall, but with sunken in sides. This could be my fault again as I used my pullman pan (without the lid) and it is a bit skinny and has perfectly straight sides. I want to try a wider pan to get a more broad loaf.

    What do you think about my proposed solutions? More flour and a wider pan might help?
    My wife wants me to solve these small issues because she already loves this bread!

    1. Hey Jeff, Happy you enjoyed this recipe. Yes, you can add a few tablespoons of flour as necessary. look at the consistency of dough in the video.
      And yes, unlike no-knead bread that is better when very loose – once kneaded the gluten needs a bit of stability so too soft can cause it to collapse.
      Also, over poofing can cause the dough to collapse in the oven during baking or sometimes after it’s out of the oven. In my experience, the concave is usually an over-proofed dough.
      I hope this helps. Let me know if you try this bread again.
      Thanks for the feedback.

      1. 5 stars
        Well I made the bread again and it’s perfect. Pretty sure I made a mistake measuring liquid the first time. I did use a wider pan and like the shape of the loaf a little better for our needs.

        I also realized today that since I can slice a whole loaf any thickness I want, I might just have to try your french bread recipe with this bread.

        1. Ah, great, Thanks for the feedback, Ken. Happy you enjoyed this recipe. Thanks for the feedback.

  6. Good recipe but just one thing – Tangzhong is not a Japanese word, The Japanese word is ‘Yudane’.
    Tangzhong is from Chinese, as this method is also used in Taiwan.

    1. This Asian technique — which has origins in Japan’s yukone (or yudane) and was popularized across Asia by Taiwanese cookbook author Yvonne Chen — cooks a small percentage of the flour and liquid (water or milk) in a yeast recipe very briefly before combining the resulting thick slurry with the remaining ingredients.

  7. hello,

    I have one quick question can i do this bread using patent flour or all purpose? I cant find bread flour .

    Would we very happy if i got a response from you.

    Shall be waiting.

    Thanks in advance!!

  8. 5 stars
    Shokupan is one of my favorite breads to bake at home, such a good bread for sandwiches! Your tips are great!